The best thing about that article is that there gets to be a point where you’re like surely. Surely we can’t get sexier and less-martyr-y than this. And that point is about a 3rd of the way through the piece.
Anti T|ony culture is mildly disliking him until you encounter T|ony stans that tear other characters down to hype him up and call you an asshole because you dislike a fictional character.
This is literally what happened to me.
I liked Steve and Tony both, and constantly tried to defend them by naming both flaws and mistakes (though Tony always had much more), but Tonky stans were never satisfied. They kept going on and on and on about why Steve sucked and had to die, while their own fave was so good and amazing and a hero and uwuwuwuwu.
I honestly got so sick of hearing “Tony Stark is the only one with problems” “Tony Stark has never done something wrong” “Tony Stark is the only good hero” “Tony Stark is Irondad uwu” and getting “You suck”, “Your blog sucks” and “I hope you die” as an answer.
That was it for me. I focused solely on Steve Rogers, and then began to severely dislike Tony Stark. Tonkies literally drive their own stans to hate him, because they can’t take the truth that Tony did bad things, and curse and whine and swear and threaten.
They’re like: “How can you hate Tony Stark?”
And my answer is: “Because of people like you”.
I started hating Tony after the amount of Team Cap bashing.
the notes on that star trek post are so fucking hilarious yall are so stupid
by hilarious i mean unsettling and worrisome. imagine being so out of it you think its a debate over “inclusivity”(the use of “man”)/changing it into a discussion of sexism even though operatively “man” is to mean “human” but how can you get all the way to “where no man has gone before” when the first line is “SPACE THE FINAL FRONTIER”
dont get me wrong i enjoy star trek quite a bit to this day and i value nichelle nichols’ place in it and to a lesser extent, leonard nimoy’s (moreso the position it put him in than his role in the show itself) and there are some good bits but i think its extremely important for fans to not fall into the trap of “fun silly campy show about people tramping around in space because planetlocked life is stifling them” when its just an aggrandized narrative on manifest destiny. in the few years i spent casually in the star trek fandom i never once saw a comment or discussion (and knowing how the discussion of a lot of trek artists antisemitism was handled im not too surprised) on the importance of recognizing the colonialist rhetoric that is the ENTIRE foundation of the original series like yall need to be thinking about this. its really worrisome to be around star trek fans who genuinely are under the impression that they were going out, seeking out inhabited planets, shoehorning themselves into their native populations, becoming involved in their politics, setting up colonies on planets left and right etc etc etc because they were just “gays in space uwu they wanted to fuck the aliens. uwu they are just travellers. space cowboys.” when its really not dificult to realize that theres a reason the first thing you hear every episode is “space the final frontier” and thats again, because its a show about manifest destiny but thats none of my business.
But it’s not. Like that’s just not what the Federation or Starfleet is doing. They’re not taking away anyone’s land, they’re not genociding any existing populations, they’re not even getting involved in other planets cultures if that’s what they wish.
Is it really so beyond our imagination that a future civilization could exist that doesn’t follow the profit motive? That doesn’t exist only to exploit and to conquer?
It’s just so shallow and lazy a take. Yes the show uses that rethoric, but what values does it actually present, what actions does it condone? And are they really in line of that rethoric or are they even actively critical of it in part?
The Prime Directive is a Thing, y’all. And even in Enterprise they had T’Pol telling the human crew to slow their busybody roll.
imagine calling steve rogers pro-military and conservative when tony stark literally sold weapons to the modern us military and steve overthrew the government twice